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This video is about the 3 tiers that DO schools fall into. This information comes from a medical school admissions committee from the medical school I attend. This information is not my opinion and was made by a med school admissions committee of whom have worked at many of the schools presented in the video. Hope this helps you guys apply to the schools where you have the best chance of getting in.
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Lmao bro my friend and I graduated with 4.0s and still can’t.
I would argue, if you want to be the best you could surround yourself with the best… in the ideal world. Short of that, we make the best of our education by taking advantage of every learning opportunity we can get and having the mindset that our profession is in our hands. We may not have done so well on standardized tests, but there are other ways we can prove ourselves. Often, this could be the fuel that propels us to success.
Yes but what “best” do you want? The best research? The best patient care? The best medical context? The best patient simulations? The best clinical work? There is no school that has all of these things at the same time, none. For example the best at research are “magnet status” so their patient care suffers because they’re more interested in that status than they are employing good every-day care workers and instead use contractors, so when you do your clinicals you’re working with nurses and techs who aren’t really being invested in, thus they aren’t invested as much. You then learn medicine from this context. If you’re really into research this is fine! Less patient care stuff and more clinical trials and research.
People who have been buried in books at Ivy league schools generally aren’t going to be as empathetic, and are going to be far more competitive (that’s from research), so going to high-stat schools are going to yield those kinds of peers, which may be right up your alley!
I would say, figure out what you want medicine to do for you first, then pick a school or schools that fit with what you want to get out of medicine. The “best” is subjective. Surround yourself with the best for you.
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Hey man, nice video. I also had to do an MSBS program at Rocky Vista University and am currently in the COM in colorado. I found the tier list and their criteria for the list very interesting. To my knowledge when it comes to board scores, and this is not me saying RVU is better than other medical schools, RVU has the highest COMLEX average in the nation, and last year we had 100% match into residency. I’ll be transparent and say idk where we stand with the USMLE, but the residency match is still impressive. And for those who want to know, only 33 out of 160+ went into family medicine (not that it’s a bad thing, I just know M.Ds are the ones to typically get the more competitive specialties), the rest went into a specialty. My long drawn point being, am confused as to why they chose those criteria to make their tiers and not residency match or board scores. Board scores, audition rotations, and LOR will make or break you anyway. Anyone in med school knows M1 and M2 grades are at the bottom of residency programs list of importance lol anyway, maybe you can make a video on that topic? I’ve tried doing my own research out of curiosity and haven’t found much on other schools board scores. Good luck with your MSBS program from one past MSBSer to another.
I believe they made the tiers based on how difficult or easy it would to be accepted into those schools. I highly doubt they took into consideration COMLEX scores or matching rates. I do know KCU achieved a 100% match rate as well. Overall DO schools have a higher match rate then MD schools. It’s good to hear from a fellow masters student. I’m glad you did it and made it to Med school. Rocky vista looks like an awesome school. Did you prefer the Colorado campus over the Utah one??
Hi! I’m a pre med currently applying to med school. What is your honest opinion about Rocky Vista University? What is your favorite and least favorite thing about the school? In your opinion, how is the education quality and how well does it prepare you for residencies( is it hard to get into clinical rotations? Did you receive any help/support while applying to residencies? I’m sorry for the barrage of questions. I truly hope you can give me an honest answer (instead of what the school tells you to say or just giving me the link to the school website).
I’m feeling pretty lost in the application process. Every school claims to have 1. the most advanced sim lab 2. opportunities to serve the community 3. the most diverse student population. Aside from board exam scores, I don’t really know what qualifies a good school and one that doesn’t care about its students’ success. Any answer is appreciated. Thanks!
I’m not really arguing that it shouldn’t be in Tier 1, but I’m curious regarding any specific reasoning as to why Touro University COM – New York is ranked there.
Is it specifically based on MCAT and GPA averages? Or is there another factor in that?
Michael Mazur interesting. Thanks!
There is definitely room for debate however this is what a Med school admissions committee presented to me. It could be based off location, average gpa, school size, match rate etc. This just gives students a rough idea.
What did the adcoms say they look at after mcat/gpa? I’m nontrad, 26yo, California resident with a 3.5cGPA 515Mcat, but the rest of my app isn’t really strong, been thinking of doing a masters just to get better LORs, some shadowing time, more research and clinical volunteering experience. Or should I apply to tier 2/3 schools?
Up to your personal preference Matthew. Do you want to spend a year or more chasing a stronger app or apply now and settle for a less prestigious school? You already have strong stats for MD schools even. Apply broadly and you’ll get in somewhere. At the end of the day, if you get in anywhere, you will become a doctor.
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Hello, I am applying right now and would like to know if URM status changes the playing field on some T1 schools? I am Puerto Rican mainland with a 3.7 (3.6 science) GPA and a 503 (127/123/127/126) MCAT. My CARS score will probably already rule me out of places. I have already applied to D.O. schools of all tiers (mostly T2) but there are three or four Tier 1s that I am crossing my fingers for… :L
I’m not sure
I just want to point out that I think your tiers are divided upon location (city size) versus the actual age of the school. Example that DMU COM is actually the 2nd oldest in the country and Kirksville is the oldest but you say they are “newer.”
These came from a several Med school admissions committee members.
I’m an AZCOM student so that’s kind of cool to find out.
DO school rankings only exist among premed students. Residency directors place all DO students in the same batch unfortunately. So you basically have MDs (which are high, mid, and low),. Then DOs. Doesn’t matter if you went to PCOM, Turo, or anywhere else they’re all categorized at the same level.
@Amy Sorry this is true. State funded doesn’t mean anything since these residency programs aren’t state funded it’s federal. This is all specialty dependent of course. If you truly want to see yourself google any hospital residency program then select the meet our residents section. There you can see who their residents are and which schools they’ve gone to. This bias is especially seen in ortho, plastics, derm, or any other competitive field.
Not true. There’s no way Texas residencies are putting TCOM on the same level as those other schools. Same thing with Oklahoma. These are state funded schools as well.
@Michael Mazur yeah it’s kind of misleading to say tiers/rank. You should have just said easiest or hardest instead since they are all in the same “tier’
That’s probably true. I think we are just talking about the difficulty in getting into certain schools.
Can you do a video for Canadian applicants to DO schools, I’m a 2nd year biochemistry student at the university of toronto and I would like to get into USDO/MD med school
@carlos bond it does.
Ya I will do my best to make one
I’m confused how a ATSU Kirksville is second-tier but ATSU Arizona is first tier? ATSU Kirksville was the first osteopathic school ever so they’re not new at all.
Ya I agree, it probably has to do with the location of the school.
Hey Micheal, have you heard of the UNTHSC SMP program ?
I haven’t looked into it
so helpful!
So glad you liked it.
Very helpful thanks for the info!
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i think western pomona is tier 1, there average mcat is 510
That’s definitely ideal but in most cases that’s not possible for a lot of students.
I also think it’s important to chose a medical school close to family, at least 6 hours driving distance.
I agree
Which tier would you say LECOM at Elmira would be?
@Jay Shah why
@Michael Mazur maybe consider removing the word tier or rank from your title
There are no official tiers for DO schools but I would guess 1 or 2
Would you consider a 3.4gpa in a masters program doing poorly?
The issue isn’t your gpa it’s more the fact that you masters had no connection with a medical school.
Got into VCOM with a 499. Got rejected from Liberty (where I went to undergrad and masters in biomed), because their new “average” is a 508. What a joke
That’s awesome congrats!
DMU has some of the highest average entrance stats of DO programs and it is the second oldest DO program in existence (after AT Still but older than PCOM). I fail to see how it is tier 2 by your definitions aside from Des Moines not being a huge city